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- Steve Paige
- Los Osos, California, United States
- Every day your rights to independent energy and water treatment are being eroded by vested economic interests and governmental interference. Join forces with me to stop tax abuse and land right grabs that reduce YOUR GREEN RIGHTS FOR: OFFGRID POWER GREYWATER WASTE PROCESSING TAX ABUSE OF GREEN TECHNOLOGY
Hi Steve Great presentation, as for the tank leach field diagram. –fits in on something-I was responding to an email issue string originally started by Ann as to “How many tanks really need replacement in a STEP project”.
ReplyDeleteAnd noted the Conservative top value given by Ripley. Someone took offence to my mentioning the 95%.
So I you don’t mind I’ll just drop it here
First Quoting Ann
"They key issue between STEP & gravity has been the requirement (never questioned) that the tanks be ripped out and re-installed community-wide, thereby jacking the cost up to nearly that of gravity. (To say nothing of the reluctance of homeowners to face and pay for out of pocket torn up yards and fences and decks & etc.) Had anybody bothered to look, it's entirely possible that the majority of tanks are just fine and can be used without leaks. And if that were the case, my bet is most Los Ososians would go with STEP in a heartbeat, especially if the cost savings would be as Steve indicated. No question.”
This is from a draft I’ll not bother to email
For the sake of someone that seemed unfamiliar with my past STEP commentary, in my response to Ann’s point and misunderstood my Ripley comment. here is this expanded; with some technical assumptions.
"I saw the 5% as a measure of Mr. Ripley's intent to convey to the permitting authorities a STEP plan that was responsibly conservative. Hence 95% potential replacement rate
I know there are a certain number of newly replaced and not too old, correctly sized, septic tanks in the PZ, Most of those installed in the last say, 15 years should be fine, How about those 1000+ homes, how long ago was that? There may be a large number of the older concrete tanks that can past a test. without bothering to research what the techniques are, a pumpout followed by a say 48 hrs static integrity test (24 hour or less more realistic (I don't like pressurization testing, but if it can be certified in less time, great) It would all need to be documented. A septic management program will be assumed
Now- there are under capacity and damaged Septic tanks in town. Cedar ring a bell? There are septic tanks in California made of redwood. I'm sure even some of those are actually functional (as long as the wood never dries out). Just to make a point. So for whatever reason 5-10% or more of tanks just aren't gonna pass and given overall age of the town. ballpark guesses? majority good? Majority bad?.
So how many tanks will need to be replaced? Are some replaceable in place, can they wait 5 more years on some? I don't Know, There never was a proper physical survey. But it is a lot less than 95%
Now; All septic systems leak. Why? They are composed of two main elements. The tank
which is not supposed to leak. And the leach field (and unfortunately deeper seepage pits) which is supposed to leak (leach out). That is why we don't call them "blocked pipe fields".
And one of the main tragedies here, is how confused the system-tank description has become
(RWQCB Should had known better, but the misuse of the words has become universal). Incidentally the muck at the bottom is virtually self sealing for lower-in-tank-cracks.
Not to distract you Steve, But this should be right down your ally, so please correct or give your professional ball-park estimates.
Alon”
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I consider this quite serendipetous. I am not taking STEP forward in my public commentary as I have done plenty since 2004, but anyone doing so should be prepared to understand that they need to work with the 95% number assumption being out there, while Ann's
continued-While Ann's "majority are fine" is functionally correct, the level of certification required would probably take it further towards majority replacement.
ReplyDeleteThis is the best presentation I've seen on Los Osos septics in a long time. Thank you, Steve.
ReplyDeleteAlon, I think you have drunk the cool aid. You can't have a double standard for Septic Tanks inside and outside the Prohibition zone without infringing on the PZ owner's assessment rights under Article 13D State Constitution. This double standard cost homeowners 10,000 dollars per property.
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